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WinNT stability


Message 1 in thread

Dear Qt-friends.

Sorry, this is a slightly off-topic question, but I thought as many of
you
do cross-platform development there might be some experience on this
topic.

We are using Qt as our GUI frontend for a project on industrial quality
control. The system that we are writing will continuously run for a
rather
long time (months) checking industrial parts. We are now thinking about
the platform that we should run this inspection program on. Our
alternatives
are WinNT, Win2000 or Linux. WinNT or Win2000 would be preferred due
to the better acceptance from our customers and also due to the better
availability of various drivers for hardware components. However, the
concern
is which of these OS has the long time stability to continuously run for
months
without crashing.
I don't want to start a flame here Windows against Linux but would be
rather interested
in concrete experiences with such long running systems.

Many thanks, Manfred
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Message 2 in thread

Manfred Prantl wrote:
> 
> Dear Qt-friends.
> 
> Sorry, this is a slightly off-topic question, but I thought as many of
> you
> do cross-platform development there might be some experience on this
> topic.
> 
> We are using Qt as our GUI frontend for a project on industrial quality
> control. The system that we are writing will continuously run for a
> rather
> long time (months) checking industrial parts. We are now thinking about
> the platform that we should run this inspection program on. Our
> alternatives
> are WinNT, Win2000 or Linux. WinNT or Win2000 would be preferred due
> to the better acceptance from our customers and also due to the better
> availability of various drivers for hardware components. However, the
> concern
> is which of these OS has the long time stability to continuously run for
> months
> without crashing.
> I don't want to start a flame here Windows against Linux but would be
> rather interested
> in concrete experiences with such long running systems.
> 
> Many thanks, Manfred

I would prefer Linux. I have only little experience with the stability
of NT as an administrator, but as a "normal" user there were I think
every week one Reboot, but the administrator was no guru.

Now I`m an administrator of a Linux server. We are running it now for 1
1/2 year and experienced no stability problems (I made a few reboots but
there was definitely no crash) Only one time the server stopped working
because of an hardware defect. Furthermore, our server is not only a
file, intranet and print server but also an application server for
VMWare, LaTeX and other Linux programs.


Regards, Martin
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Message 3 in thread

On Wednesday 31 January 2001 09:28, Manfred Prantl wrote:

> I don't want to start a flame here Windows against Linux

Great! But unfortunately, postings like this are guaranteed to generate 
approx. 30 replies anyhow.

Could everyone please send his/her highly valued opinion  
_to_the_sender_only_ ?

Thank you. Pieter.

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Message 4 in thread

Hi !

I think you should be pretty good with any of thoose three, WindowsNT is
very stable and Linux also, Windows2000 does have some small problems, I
have a Zip USB drive, and this makes my Windows2000 behave a bit weird now
and then. I have managed to get my Windows2000 to crasch a few times, but
this only happens when it goes into powersave mode, sometimes it wont come
back to life again.... ;-(

I never had problems with WindowsNT and I kept it running for at least 2
month sometimes without any problems, same thing with my linux box.

And this is an an SMP computer with 2 PIII.

Mikael

----- Original Message -----
From: "Manfred Prantl" <prantl@alicona.com>
To: "Qt-Interest" <qt-interest@trolltech.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 9:28 AM
Subject: WinNT stability


> Dear Qt-friends.
>
> Sorry, this is a slightly off-topic question, but I thought as many of
> you
> do cross-platform development there might be some experience on this
> topic.
>
> We are using Qt as our GUI frontend for a project on industrial quality
> control. The system that we are writing will continuously run for a
> rather
> long time (months) checking industrial parts. We are now thinking about
> the platform that we should run this inspection program on. Our
> alternatives
> are WinNT, Win2000 or Linux. WinNT or Win2000 would be preferred due
> to the better acceptance from our customers and also due to the better
> availability of various drivers for hardware components. However, the
> concern
> is which of these OS has the long time stability to continuously run for
> months
> without crashing.
> I don't want to start a flame here Windows against Linux but would be
> rather interested
> in concrete experiences with such long running systems.
>
> Many thanks, Manfred
>


Message 5 in thread

I have no informatio long time stabillity about NT, but my Linuxbox runs 
more then one year without crashing. 

I think in the NT or 2000 World it depends what you have all installed 
on that platform.

The NT Box in my office crashes every 2. Week.

I think you have to test it by yourself. Normally customers choose a
Windowsbox because they know that brand. 

If you have all drivers for external and internal devices, I would 
choose Linux, especially with a new 2.4.1 Kernel. It rocks. :-))

Best regards

Juergen

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Dear Qt-friends.

Sorry, this is a slightly off-topic question, but I thought as many of
you
do cross-platform development there might be some experience on this
topic.

We are using Qt as our GUI frontend for a project on industrial quality
control. The system that we are writing will continuously run for a
rather
long time (months) checking industrial parts. We are now thinking about
the platform that we should run this inspection program on. Our
alternatives
are WinNT, Win2000 or Linux. WinNT or Win2000 would be preferred due
to the better acceptance from our customers and also due to the better
availability of various drivers for hardware components. However, the
concern
is which of these OS has the long time stability to continuously run for
months
without crashing.
I don't want to start a flame here Windows against Linux but would be
rather interested
in concrete experiences with such long running systems.

Many thanks, Manfred
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Message 6 in thread

Hi
I can shed some light on this issue of Windows stability. My system crushes 
6 or 7 times daily. The Event Log always reports that the system shut down 
because of a bug check. That is a good idea of how stable Windows 2000 is, 
Thank God for Linux and VMWare

At 09:59 31/01/2001 +0100, juergen.messerer@freesurf.ch wrote:
>I have no informatio long time stabillity about NT, but my Linuxbox runs
>more then one year without crashing.
>
>I think in the NT or 2000 World it depends what you have all installed
>on that platform.
>
>The NT Box in my office crashes every 2. Week.
>
>I think you have to test it by yourself. Normally customers choose a
>Windowsbox because they know that brand.
>
>If you have all drivers for external and internal devices, I would
>choose Linux, especially with a new 2.4.1 Kernel. It rocks. :-))
>
>Best regards
>
>Juergen
>
>--
>Enjoy more time at less cost with sunrise freetime
>http://go.sunrise.ch/de/sel/default.asp
>
>
>Dear Qt-friends.
>
>Sorry, this is a slightly off-topic question, but I thought as many of
>you
>do cross-platform development there might be some experience on this
>topic.
>
>We are using Qt as our GUI frontend for a project on industrial quality
>control. The system that we are writing will continuously run for a
>rather
>long time (months) checking industrial parts. We are now thinking about
>the platform that we should run this inspection program on. Our
>alternatives
>are WinNT, Win2000 or Linux. WinNT or Win2000 would be preferred due
>to the better acceptance from our customers and also due to the better
>availability of various drivers for hardware components. However, the
>concern
>is which of these OS has the long time stability to continuously run for
>months
>without crashing.
>I don't want to start a flame here Windows against Linux but would be
>rather interested
>in concrete experiences with such long running systems.
>
>Many thanks, Manfred
>  FLAGS (\Seen) UID 481)

Regards
John

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Message 7 in thread

If it comes down to NT vs 2000 ... choose 2000 it seems to be better.

However if it comes to runtime ... choose linux

We have a customer that have two Linux box running for almost 2 years.  Not
even once this system crashed.  It runs a mission
critical application and runs on a pentium 120 with 32 MB of memory !!!!!!  Of
course even linux cannot handle power or hardware failures but
luckily for us this did not occur yet !

HTH
W




Message 8 in thread

> Hi
> I can shed some light on this issue of Windows stability. My system
crushes
> 6 or 7 times daily. The Event Log always reports that the system shut down
> because of a bug check. That is a good idea of how stable Windows 2000 is,
> Thank God for Linux and VMWare

If your machine crashes that regularly, you clearly have either a
configuration
or hardware problem.


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