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is anybody working (worked) with Qt 3.3.7 in Windows?

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Message 1 in thread

I just found Qt 3.3.7 ported to Windows. Looks like it is not clearly 
developed port but there are several other versions of Qt3 on this server.

I tried install this Qt to same comp where Qt4 already exists. They do not 
conflict in any SET variables or program path. But I cannot configure 
package, getting error message from make:
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C:\Qt\3.3.7\misc\link_includes>mingw32-make -f Makefile.win32-g++
/bin/sh: -c: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file
mingw32-make: *** [tmp\moc\release-shared-mt] Error 258
---

can anybody help with this? May be this is same stupid error like another I 
found in configure.bat. But may be somebody came this way and can help me 
quickly, ha?


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Message 2 in thread

> I just found Qt 3.3.7 ported to Windows. Looks like it is not clearly 
> developed port but there are several other versions of Qt3 on this 
server.

Huh? What do you mean by "ported to windows"? Qt-3.3.7 is distributed 
windows-ready from Trolltech - no need to port anything ...

> I tried install this Qt to same comp where Qt4 already exists. They do 
not 
> conflict in any SET variables or program path. But I cannot configure 

I have 'em both running in perfect unity here :-) Thank goodness Qt4 does 
not depend on any Environment Variables (besides QMAKESPECS maybe) :-))

> package, getting error message from make:
> ---
> C:\Qt\3.3.7\misc\link_includes>mingw32-make -f Makefile.win32-g++

IIRC Qt-3.3.7 still comes with an installer for the windows version - no 
need to run mingw32-make manually ...

> /bin/sh: -c: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file

When working with Qt3+mingw32 you should _NOT_ have any executable called 
"sh" in your path to force mingw32-make to use cmd.exe...

All said above is based on commercial version of Qt - I don't know about 
OpenSource version ...

Regards,
Malte


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Message 3 in thread

"Malte Witt" <malte.witt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ???????/???????? ? ???????? 
?????????: 
news:OFB6F5D5A7.A62C9F13-ONC125732A.00435F08-C125732A.00441901@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> I just found Qt 3.3.7 ported to Windows. Looks like it is not clearly
>> developed port but there are several other versions of Qt3 on this
> server.
>
> Huh? What do you mean by "ported to windows"? Qt-3.3.7 is distributed
> windows-ready from Trolltech - no need to port anything ...

looks like this is a port, not native build
I downloaded it not from TT server, there are no Qt3 there...

but may be I'm wrong

> IIRC Qt-3.3.7 still comes with an installer for the windows version - no
> need to run mingw32-make manually ...

Where I can get this OpenSourced?

>> /bin/sh: -c: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file
>
> When working with Qt3+mingw32 you should _NOT_ have any executable called
> "sh" in your path to force mingw32-make to use cmd.exe...

A-ha... Looks like this is a problem...


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Message 4 in thread

> looks like this is a port, not native build
> I downloaded it not from TT server, there are no Qt3 there...
> 
> but may be I'm wrong
> 
> > IIRC Qt-3.3.7 still comes with an installer for the windows version - 
no
> > need to run mingw32-make manually ...
> 
> Where I can get this OpenSourced?

I just took a quick look. I fear there were no opensource qt3-windows 
versions at ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/ :-( They start with qt4.0.0 
...
Sorry - I didn't know that ...

> >> /bin/sh: -c: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file
> >
> > When working with Qt3+mingw32 you should _NOT_ have any executable 
called
> > "sh" in your path to force mingw32-make to use cmd.exe...
> 
> A-ha... Looks like this is a problem...

Hope that helped you a bit ;-) Maybe you can get your port running :-))

Regards,
Malte

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Message 5 in thread

 > I just took a quick look. I fear there were no opensource qt3-windows
 > versions at ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/ :-( They start with 
qt4.0.0
 > ...
 > Sorry - I didn't know that ...
 >
 >   
Does that mean that if I develop an open source under 3.3.x, nobody can
use it on windows?

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Message 6 in thread

El Miércoles 01 Agosto 2007, Marie-Christine Vallet escribió:
>  > I just took a quick look. I fear there were no opensource qt3-windows
>  > versions at ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/ :-( They start with
>
> qt4.0.0
>
>  > ...
>  > Sorry - I didn't know that ...
>
> Does that mean that if I develop an open source under 3.3.x, nobody can
> use it on windows?

AFAIK, that means that if you develop under 3.3.x, you will have to try to 
compile Linux's version in windows. I suggest you better develop under Qt 4.x

Regards, Lisandro.


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Message 7 in thread

Marie-Christine Vallet wrote:
> 
>> I just took a quick look. I fear there were no opensource qt3-windows
>> versions at ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/ :-( They start with
> qt4.0.0
>> ...
>> Sorry - I didn't know that ...
>>
>>   Does that mean that if I develop an open source under 3.3.x, nobody can
> use it on windows?

Pretty much.

Q../Free (sf.net/projects/qtfree) is an attempt to port the X11 Qt to
Windows. It's OK for basic stuff but not something I'd want to rely on.

I very strongly suggest you just use Qt4. Developing against qt3 now is
shackling yourself to a dependency that'll be obsoleted and phased out
at some point. Qt4 is also not just a new version for the fun of it ; it
has some significant cleanups and improvements.

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Message 8 in thread

On 8/1/07, Craig Ringer <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Marie-Christine Vallet wrote:
> >
> >> I just took a quick look. I fear there were no opensource qt3-windows
> >> versions at ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/ :-( They start with
> > qt4.0.0
> >> ...
> >> Sorry - I didn't know that ...
> >>
> >>   Does that mean that if I develop an open source under 3.3.x, nobody can
> > use it on windows?
>
> Pretty much.
>
> Q../Free (sf.net/projects/qtfree) is an attempt to port the X11 Qt to
> Windows. It's OK for basic stuff but not something I'd want to rely on.
>
> I very strongly suggest you just use Qt4. Developing against qt3 now is
> shackling yourself to a dependency that'll be obsoleted and phased out
> at some point.

Qt3 hit official end-of-life a month ago (7/1/2007) - see
http://trolltech.com/products/qt/qt3

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"Craig Ringer" <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ???????/???????? ? ???????? 
?????????: news:46B137AA.2090801@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Marie-Christine Vallet wrote:
> Q../Free (sf.net/projects/qtfree) is an attempt to port the X11 Qt to
> Windows. It's OK for basic stuff but not something I'd want to rely on.
>
> I very strongly suggest you just use Qt4. Developing against qt3 now is
> shackling yourself to a dependency that'll be obsoleted and phased out
> at some point. Qt4 is also not just a new version for the fun of it ; it
> has some significant cleanups and improvements.

but I've got project developed for Qt3 Linux and I've port it to Windows

I've already started redesign this project using Qt4 (see my prev thread 
about porting) but this takes time

I need fast solution... Thus I found this port of 3.3.7

Now it builds libraries and executables, thanx to Malte Witt's help

What if all samples will work good, what if my application will work 
good?... 


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Message 10 in thread

Von: nilir@xxxxxxxx
> "Craig Ringer" <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ???????/???????? ? ???????? 
> ?????????: news:46B137AA.2090801@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Marie-Christine Vallet wrote:
> > Q../Free (sf.net/projects/qtfree) is an attempt to port the X11 Qt to
> > Windows. It's OK for basic stuff but not something I'd want to rely on.
> >
> > I very strongly suggest you just use Qt4. Developing against qt3 now is
> > shackling yourself to a dependency that'll be obsoleted and phased out
> > at some point. Qt4 is also not just a new version for the fun of it ; it
> > has some significant cleanups and improvements.
> 
> but I've got project developed for Qt3 Linux and I've port it to Windows
> 
> I've already started redesign this project using Qt4 (see my prev thread 
> about porting) but this takes time
> 
> I need fast solution... Thus I found this port of 3.3.7
> 
> Now it builds libraries and executables, thanx to Malte Witt's help
> 
> What if all samples will work good, what if my application will work 
> good?... 
> 
I *really* wonder why people can't read...
From the project site: "Please keep in mind that we have *nothing* to do with the official Qt/win from Trolltech and don't ask question about problems compiling and using our sources on official Trolltech lists."

Christian
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> I *really* wonder why people can't read...
> From the project site: "Please keep in mind that we have *nothing* 
> to do with the official Qt/win from Trolltech and don't ask question
> about problems compiling and using our sources on official Trolltech 
lists."

Well,

people here probably don't know much about the specialities of that port. 
Anyways - the problem mentioned is a problem that arises with the official 
(commercial) windows release as well ... so why not ask for help?
Besides - it's not always easy to find the right place for those kind of 
questions ...

Regards,
Malte

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Message 12 in thread

Von: "Malte Witt" <malte.witt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > I *really* wonder why people can't read...
> > From the project site: "Please keep in mind that we have *nothing* 
> > to do with the official Qt/win from Trolltech and don't ask question
> > about problems compiling and using our sources on official Trolltech 
> lists."
> 
> Well,
> 
> people here probably don't know much about the specialities of that port. 
> Anyways - the problem mentioned is a problem that arises with the official
> (commercial) windows release as well ... so why not ask for help?
> Besides - it's not always easy to find the right place for those kind of 
> questions ...
> 
The poster did not even made a single attempt to ask for help there (and did not read anything on the page) - there's a bugtracker + mailing list... also he used an old outdated version. I really don't think they should bother official tt lists with questions regarding installing and using this port...

Christian
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Message 13 in thread

>"Christian Ehrlicher" <Ch.Ehrlicher@xxxxxx> : > The poster did not even 
>made a single attempt to ask for help there (and did not read anything on 
>the page) - there's a bugtracker + mailing list... also he used an old 
>outdated version. I really don't think they should bother official tt lists 
>with questions regarding installing and using this port...
>

1. this is another port from another site
2. there is no message "don't ask question about problems compiling and 
using our sources on official Trolltech lists" on the site
2. there IS message on the site: "The Q... for windows edition (The name 
Q... is choosen because of trademark issues) is a *NATIVE win32 port of the 
gpl'ed Qt/x11 sources*."
3. nobody told it is prohibited to discuss this port here
4. nobody told outdated version questions are prohibited here
5. don't fantasy what didn't happen
6. ready carefully question asked - it sounds like "is anybody working..."


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Message 14 in thread

On 01.08.07 15:56:30, nilir@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> I just found Qt 3.3.7 ported to Windows. Looks like it is not clearly 
> developed port but there are several other versions of Qt3 on this server.
> 
> I tried install this Qt to same comp where Qt4 already exists. They do not 
> conflict in any SET variables or program path. But I cannot configure 
> package, getting error message from make:
> ---
> C:\Qt\3.3.7\misc\link_includes>mingw32-make -f Makefile.win32-g++
> /bin/sh: -c: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file
> mingw32-make: *** [tmp\moc\release-shared-mt] Error 258
> ---
> 
> can anybody help with this? May be this is same stupid error like another I 
> found in configure.bat. But may be somebody came this way and can help me 
> quickly, ha?

Don't bother, that port is unfinished and always will be. AFAIK only
parts of the gui stuff work and sql, network and all that don't work at
all. I'd suggest to use Qt4 instead thats opensource for windows
already, much easier to setup and you don't have a hard time figuring
out wether a bug comes from your application or a bug in the port.

Andreas

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Message 15 in thread

> > I just took a quick look. I fear there were no opensource qt3-windows 
> > versions at ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/ :-( They start with 
qt4.0.0 
> > ...
> > Sorry - I didn't know that ...

> Does that mean that if I develop an open source under 3.3.x, nobody can 
> use it on windows?

IANAL nor a trolltech official, but I think that's pretty much true :-( If 
you are free of choice, you should defenitely use Qt4 for following 
reasons (besides others):

1.) Qt4 is available as open source version on all supported platforms, 
including windows
2.) Qt3 has reached its end-of-life :-(
3.) Way better design of the Qt4 library :-)
4.) I love it ;-)

Regards,
Malte

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