Qt-interest Archive, January 2008
Re: qt-interest-request is broken for unsubscribe requests (it is also flaky for subscribe requests)
Message 1 in thread
I also had problems to subscribe (I have not tried to unsubscribe,
yet). For me it worked, when I sent a mail with "subscribe" in the
subject and an empty body.
Regards, Niko
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Message 2 in thread
Hi,
> Sorry to spam the entire list, but I'd like to either put my
> subscription into digest mode (I couldn't find a way to do this) or
> failing that unsubscribe from the list completely.
There's no digest mode. I would recommend using the news group server instead
- that's what I'm using myself.
> I've completed the unsubscribe, receive uConfirmation#, reply again in
> less then 10 seconds on 5 or 6 occasions now and
> qt-interest-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:qt-interest-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> fails to acknowledge my
> uConfirmation.
> Subscribing was similarly broken, taking me 4 tries before receiving a
> 'welcome to the list' after replying to the sConfirm.
I tried subscribing with a Gmail address and I can reproduce a few problems:
* I sent "subscribe" in the *body* of a message to qt-interest-request@ and
got no answer.
* I sent "subscribe" in the *subject* of a message to qt-interest-request@ and
did get a CONFIRM message back.
* I replied to the CONFIRM message using the "Reply" button and got no answer.
* I replied to the CONFIRM message using the "Reply" button, after *deleting
the body* of the message. I did get a subscribe confirmation message back.
The same happened during my attempts to unsubscribe.
So in short:
1) For now, send the word "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" in the *subject* of the
initial message, not in the body of the message as suggested by the
instructions on this page: http://lists.trolltech.com/qt-interest/.
2) For now, make sure the body of the message is empty when answering the
CONFIRM message.
I'll notify the sysadmins. Maybe some over-zealous spam filter is filtering
messages to qt-interest-request@...
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Message 3 in thread
On Tue, 2008-01-01 at 12:37 +0100, Dimitri wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Sorry to spam the entire list, but I'd like to either put my
> > subscription into digest mode (I couldn't find a way to do this) or
> > failing that unsubscribe from the list completely.
>
> There's no digest mode. I would recommend using the news group server instead
> - that's what I'm using myself.
>
> > I've completed the unsubscribe, receive uConfirmation#, reply again in
> > less then 10 seconds on 5 or 6 occasions now and
> > qt-interest-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:qt-interest-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> fails to acknowledge my
> > uConfirmation.
> > Subscribing was similarly broken, taking me 4 tries before receiving a
> > 'welcome to the list' after replying to the sConfirm.
>
> I tried subscribing with a Gmail address and I can reproduce a few problems:
> * I sent "subscribe" in the *body* of a message to qt-interest-request@ and
> got no answer.
> * I sent "subscribe" in the *subject* of a message to qt-interest-request@ and
> did get a CONFIRM message back.
> * I replied to the CONFIRM message using the "Reply" button and got no answer.
> * I replied to the CONFIRM message using the "Reply" button, after *deleting
> the body* of the message. I did get a subscribe confirmation message back.
>
> The same happened during my attempts to unsubscribe.
>
> So in short:
>
> 1) For now, send the word "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" in the *subject* of the
> initial message, not in the body of the message as suggested by the
> instructions on this page: http://lists.trolltech.com/qt-interest/.
>
> 2) For now, make sure the body of the message is empty when answering the
> CONFIRM message.
>
> I'll notify the sysadmins. Maybe some over-zealous spam filter is filtering
> messages to qt-interest-request@...
On that note, while the mailing list is being discussed here. Can
something be changed to where e-mails on the mailing list automatically
contain a reply-to with qt-interest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx? Either that or set
"from" to qt-interest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
As it stands right now, the e-mails come in with the "from" field of the
person who sent it with a "to" qt-interest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
The problem with this is, when I go to just hit the normal reply button,
my reply just goes to the person who sent the e-mail and NOT to the
list!
If I use reply-all instead, then it goes to both the person who sent it
and to the list, which is a little redundant.
Usually when responding I manually fix this but I don't always remember
as this is the only mailing list I am on where I have that particular
problem.
Stephan
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Message 4 in thread
On 01.01.08 13:56:18, Stephan Rose wrote:
> On that note, while the mailing list is being discussed here. Can
> something be changed to where e-mails on the mailing list automatically
> contain a reply-to with qt-interest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx? Either that or set
> "from" to qt-interest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
No, google for reply-to harmful to understand why.
> As it stands right now, the e-mails come in with the "from" field of the
> person who sent it with a "to" qt-interest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> The problem with this is, when I go to just hit the normal reply button,
> my reply just goes to the person who sent the e-mail and NOT to the
> list!
>
> If I use reply-all instead, then it goes to both the person who sent it
> and to the list, which is a little redundant.
I suggest to fix your email client or get one thats not from the ancient
past. Clients that should be used for lists do have a List-Reply button
which does the right thing.
The only widely-used software for sending mails I know that doesn't
support this is MS Outlook (Express).
Andreas
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Message 5 in thread
On Tue, 2008-01-01 at 14:14 +0100, Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> On 01.01.08 13:56:18, Stephan Rose wrote:
> > On that note, while the mailing list is being discussed here. Can
> > something be changed to where e-mails on the mailing list automatically
> > contain a reply-to with qt-interest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx? Either that or set
> > "from" to qt-interest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> No, google for reply-to harmful to understand why.
>
> > As it stands right now, the e-mails come in with the "from" field of the
> > person who sent it with a "to" qt-interest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > The problem with this is, when I go to just hit the normal reply button,
> > my reply just goes to the person who sent the e-mail and NOT to the
> > list!
> >
> > If I use reply-all instead, then it goes to both the person who sent it
> > and to the list, which is a little redundant.
>
> I suggest to fix your email client or get one thats not from the ancient
> past. Clients that should be used for lists do have a List-Reply button
> which does the right thing.
>
> The only widely-used software for sending mails I know that doesn't
> support this is MS Outlook (Express).
>
> Andreas
>
Please, no need to be insulting! I wouldn't be caught dead using MS
Outlook (any version of it)! ;)
Thanks for the tip about list reply though. I wasn't even aware that
existed as other lists I use all have reply-to set, so for me that was
just the way I'm used to. Evolution does have a list-reply though, but
it is hidden in a menu and not part of the toolbar so I never saw it as
I never knew to look for it.
Seems to work though. =)
Stephan
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Message 6 in thread
On 1/1/08, Andreas Pakulat <apaku@xxxxxx> wrote:
> On 01.01.08 13:56:18, Stephan Rose wrote:
> > On that note, while the mailing list is being discussed here. Can
> > something be changed to where e-mails on the mailing list automatically
> > contain a reply-to with qt-interest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx? Either that or set
> > "from" to qt-interest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> No, google for reply-to harmful to understand why.
>
> > As it stands right now, the e-mails come in with the "from" field of the
> > person who sent it with a "to" qt-interest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > The problem with this is, when I go to just hit the normal reply button,
> > my reply just goes to the person who sent the e-mail and NOT to the
> > list!
> >
> > If I use reply-all instead, then it goes to both the person who sent it
> > and to the list, which is a little redundant.
>
> I suggest to fix your email client or get one thats not from the ancient
> past. Clients that should be used for lists do have a List-Reply button
> which does the right thing.
>
> The only widely-used software for sending mails I know that doesn't
> support this is MS Outlook (Express).
And what about gmail? It supports conversations (thats why I use it
for developer conferences), it is remote (available at school, work
and home without need to synchronization) and IMHO quite widely used.
Unfortunately, I was unable to find a way to make it automatically
reply to the list and while I know I have to manually edit the "to"
field, sometimes I simple forget it. Ideal way would be for people to
decide whether they want the reply-to or not, making it a
per-subscriber option.
Martin Petricek
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Message 7 in thread
Hi,
> On that note, while the mailing list is being discussed here. Can
> something be changed to where e-mails on the mailing list automatically
> contain a reply-to with qt-interest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx? Either that or set
> "from" to qt-interest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
This has been discussed very often on this mailing list, search the archive.
This is most probably a problem with your mailer.
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