Qt4-preview-feedback Archive, March 2008
Cocoa Qt 4.4.0 alpha1: all applications crash
Message 1 in thread
Hi,
after the announcement yesterday I downloaded
qt-mac-cocoa-commercial-src-4.4.0-alpha1.tar.gz
and configured it with
./configure -arch x86_64 -prefix $PWD
The build almost went through (fails on the orderform example).
But if I try to start an application (Designer, Assistant, Linguist,
Colliding Mice example, etc.), it crashes:
Thread 0 Crashed:
0 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff835461c4
HIObject::GetEventTarget() + 12
1 QtGui 0x00000001004941a0
QAccessibleHierarchyManager::registerInterface(QObject*,
OpaqueHIObjectRef*, QInterfaceFactory*) + 224
2 QtGui 0x000000010049b438
QAccessibleHierarchyManager::registerInterface(QAInterface const&) +
1128
3 QtGui 0x000000010049b93f
QAccessible::updateAccessibility(QObject*, int, QAccessible::Event) +
239
4 QtGui 0x00000001000a4cb3
QWidgetPrivate::show_helper() + 371
5 QtGui 0x00000001000a4b15
QWidgetPrivate::showChildren(bool) + 341
6 QtGui 0x00000001000a4b86
QWidgetPrivate::show_helper() + 70
7 QtGui 0x00000001000a7a98
QWidget::setVisible(bool) + 1144
8 collidingmice 0x0000000100005079 QWidget::show()
+ 37 (qwidget.h:448)
9 collidingmice 0x0000000100004d61 main + 975 (main.cpp:66)
10 collidingmice 0x0000000100004970 start + 52
Any ideas?
Rainer
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Message 2 in thread
On 2008-03-04 12:15:00 +0100, "Rainer Schmid" <ashcatch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> Hi,
>
> after the announcement yesterday I downloaded
>
> qt-mac-cocoa-commercial-src-4.4.0-alpha1.tar.gz
>
> and configured it with
>
> ./configure -arch x86_64 -prefix $PWD
>
> The build almost went through (fails on the orderform example).
>
> But if I try to start an application (Designer, Assistant, Linguist,
> Colliding Mice example, etc.), it crashes:
Hmm... it looks like the accessibility plugin is wrecking havoc. It
shouldn't even be built for 64-bit. Try removing the accessibility
plugin from the plugins directory and see if that solves the problem.
Maybe accessibility should have been disabled explicitly for the alpha.
Hope this helps,
-- Trenton
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Message 3 in thread
Hi,
> > after the announcement yesterday I downloaded
> >
> > qt-mac-cocoa-commercial-src-4.4.0-alpha1.tar.gz
> >
> > and configured it with
> >
> > ./configure -arch x86_64 -prefix $PWD
> >
> > The build almost went through (fails on the orderform example).
> >
> > But if I try to start an application (Designer, Assistant, Linguist,
> > Colliding Mice example, etc.), it crashes:
>
> Hmm... it looks like the accessibility plugin is wrecking havoc. It
> shouldn't even be built for 64-bit. Try removing the accessibility
> plugin from the plugins directory and see if that solves the problem.
Removing the plugin does not help (same crash). I will try to disable
accessibility explicitly.
Rainer
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Message 4 in thread
On 2008-03-04 15:50:12 +0100, "Rainer Schmid" <ashcatch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> Hi,
>
>>> after the announcement yesterday I downloaded
>>>
>>> qt-mac-cocoa-commercial-src-4.4.0-alpha1.tar.gz
>>>
>>> and configured it with
>>>
>>> ./configure -arch x86_64 -prefix $PWD
>>>
>>> The build almost went through (fails on the orderform example).
>>>
>>> But if I try to start an application (Designer, Assistant, Linguist,
>>> Colliding Mice example, etc.), it crashes:
>>
>> Hmm... it looks like the accessibility plugin is wrecking havoc. It
>> shouldn't even be built for 64-bit. Try removing the accessibility
>> plugin from the plugins directory and see if that solves the problem.
>
> Removing the plugin does not help (same crash). I will try to disable
> accessibility explicitly.
OK. It looks like that could be the trick. I'll see if I can't be a bit
better disabling things in qaccessible_mac.cpp for the moment as well.
It really shouldn't be getting any HIObject stuff there at all.
You could just register interface return too and see if that helps?
-- Trenton
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Message 5 in thread
I just tried using the qt Cocoa alpha release building with the
"-static" option,
all example projects crash, even examples/tutorial/t1.app
Is that a known limitation for now?
- DavidF
Trenton Schulz wrote:
> On 2008-03-04 15:50:12 +0100, "Rainer Schmid"
> <ashcatch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>>> after the announcement yesterday I downloaded
>>>>
>>>> qt-mac-cocoa-commercial-src-4.4.0-alpha1.tar.gz
>>>>
>>>> and configured it with
>>>>
>>>> ./configure -arch x86_64 -prefix $PWD
>>>>
>>>> The build almost went through (fails on the orderform example).
>>>>
>>>> But if I try to start an application (Designer, Assistant, Linguist,
>>>> Colliding Mice example, etc.), it crashes:
>>>
>>> Hmm... it looks like the accessibility plugin is wrecking havoc. It
>>> shouldn't even be built for 64-bit. Try removing the accessibility
>>> plugin from the plugins directory and see if that solves the problem.
>>
>> Removing the plugin does not help (same crash). I will try to disable
>> accessibility explicitly.
>
> OK. It looks like that could be the trick. I'll see if I can't be a
> bit better disabling things in qaccessible_mac.cpp for the moment as
> well. It really shouldn't be getting any HIObject stuff there at all.
>
> You could just register interface return too and see if that helps?
>
> -- Trenton
>
>
> To unsubscribe - send "unsubscribe" in the subject to
> qt4-preview-feedback-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
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Message 6 in thread
Hi David,
On 2008-03-12 18:15:30 +0100, David Forstenlechner <dforsten@xxxxxxxxxx> said:
> I just tried using the qt Cocoa alpha release building with the
> "-static" option,
> all example projects crash, even examples/tutorial/t1.app
>
> Is that a known limitation for now?
If you read the blog entry here:
http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/03/03/qtmac-cocoa-port-alpha-released/
You'll see that it's something that we are considering not supporting.
Not because we don't want to, but rather because of the billions of
options it opens up to having your application fail.
As for the crash, seeing a backtrace would be helpful, it could very
well be because it's static and it's expecting to be able to load a nib
that's probably no where to be found.
As for the crash with accessibility, it seems turning off "support for
assistive devices" makes it work. This didn't get tested before the
alpha shipped. Sorry about that.
Hope this helps,
-- Trenton
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Message 7 in thread
Thanks for the quick answer Trenton,
static versions of the Qt libraries are pretty important to us,
since we plan to use it in a variety of contexts, some of which
require all dependencies to be contained in the binary.
I attached the crash report,
on the command line I get following output
trying to execute t1.app:
2008-03-12 10:07:43.466 t1[87394:10b] *** -[NSWindow
initWithQWidget:contentRect:styleMask:]: unrecognized selector sent to
instance 0x10183de50
2008-03-12 10:07:43.707 t1[87394:10b] An uncaught exception was raised
2008-03-12 10:07:43.708 t1[87394:10b] *** -[NSWindow
initWithQWidget:contentRect:styleMask:]: unrecognized selector sent to
instance 0x10183de50
2008-03-12 10:07:43.708 t1[87394:10b] *** Terminating app due to
uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: '*** -[NSWindow
initWithQWidget:contentRect:styleMask:]: unrecognized selector sent to
instance 0x10183de50'
2008-03-12 10:07:43.709 t1[87394:10b] Stack: (
140735409188444,
140735364037063,
140735409215387,
140735409208868,
140735409209208,
4295032140,
4295040593,
4295062267,
4295693044,
4295733606,
4295734171,
4295096512,
4295096739,
4295339492,
4295060705,
4295693044,
4295714594,
4294985099,
4294984897,
4294984748
)
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'NSException'
Abort trap
Regards
- DavidF
Trenton Schulz wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> On 2008-03-12 18:15:30 +0100, David Forstenlechner
> <dforsten@xxxxxxxxxx> said:
>
>> I just tried using the qt Cocoa alpha release building with the
>> "-static" option,
>> all example projects crash, even examples/tutorial/t1.app
>>
>> Is that a known limitation for now?
>
> If you read the blog entry here:
>
> http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/03/03/qtmac-cocoa-port-alpha-released/
>
>
> You'll see that it's something that we are considering not supporting.
> Not because we don't want to, but rather because of the billions of
> options it opens up to having your application fail.
>
> As for the crash, seeing a backtrace would be helpful, it could very
> well be because it's static and it's expecting to be able to load a
> nib that's probably no where to be found.
>
> As for the crash with accessibility, it seems turning off "support for
> assistive devices" makes it work. This didn't get tested before the
> alpha shipped. Sorry about that.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> -- Trenton
>
> To unsubscribe - send "unsubscribe" in the subject to
> qt4-preview-feedback-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
Process: t1 [244]
Process: t1 [244]
Path: /Volumes/Data/Programming/qt-mac-cocoa-commercial-src-4.4.0-alpha1/examples/tutorial/t1/t1.app/Contents/MacOS/t1
Identifier: t1
Version: ??? (???)
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: bash [151]
Date/Time: 2008-03-12 22:52:08.366 +0100
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.2 (9C31)
Report Version: 6
Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 0
Application Specific Information:
*** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: '*** -[NSWindow initWithQWidget:contentRect:styleMask:]: unrecognized selector sent to instance 0x10113de50'
Thread 0 Crashed:
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8 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff83122e24 ___forwarding___ + 756
9 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff83122f78 _CF_forwarding_prep_0 + 232
10 t1 0x000000010000fd4c qt_mac_create_window(QWidget*, unsigned int, unsigned long, CGRect const&) + 166
11 t1 0x0000000100011e51 QWidgetPrivate::qt_create_root_win() + 205
12 t1 0x00000001000172fb QWidgetPrivate::create_sys(long, bool, bool) + 2049
13 t1 0x00000001000b12f4 QWidget::create(long, bool, bool) + 568
14 t1 0x00000001000bb166 QWidgetPrivate::init(QWidget*, QFlags<Qt::WindowType>) + 834
15 t1 0x00000001000bb39b QWidget::QWidget(QWidgetPrivate&, QWidget*, QFlags<Qt::WindowType>) + 123
16 t1 0x000000010001f8c0 QDesktopWidget::QDesktopWidget() + 72
17 t1 0x000000010001f9a3 QDesktopWidget::QDesktopWidget() + 21
18 t1 0x000000010005ade4 QApplication::desktop() + 82
19 t1 0x0000000100016ce1 QWidgetPrivate::create_sys(long, bool, bool) + 487
20 t1 0x00000001000b12f4 QWidget::create(long, bool, bool) + 568
21 t1 0x00000001000b6722 QWidget::setVisible(bool) + 432
22 t1 0x000000010000458b QWidget::show() + 37 (qwidget.h:448)
23 t1 0x00000001000044c1 main + 115 (main.cpp:45)
24 t1 0x000000010000442c start + 52
Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
rax: 0x0000000000000000 rbx: 0x00007fff700b5698 rcx: 0x00007fff5fbfe918 rdx: 0x0000000000000000
rdi: 0x00000000000000f4 rsi: 0x0000000000000006 rbp: 0x00007fff5fbfe930 rsp: 0x00007fff5fbfe918
r8: 0x00007fff5fbfe4a0 r9: 0x0000000000000000 r10: 0x00007fff807df3a6 r11: 0x0000000000000202
r12: 0x00007fff8314ccc8 r13: 0x0000000000000000 r14: 0x00007fff83350d60 r15: 0x00007fff70606040
rip: 0x00007fff80807366 rfl: 0x0000000000000202 cr2: 0x00007fff8080735c
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Message 8 in thread
On Mar 12, 2008, at 4:01 PM, David Forstenlechner wrote:
> static versions of the Qt libraries are pretty important to us,
> since we plan to use it in a variety of contexts, some of which
> require all dependencies to be contained in the binary.
Hmm..
Will a Qt/Cocoa binary even work without being packaged in an
application bundle? I don't think so, but I might be wrong.
But I think you'll need to put your binary in a directory structure like
MyApp.app/Contents/MacOS/myapp
and if that's the case, what's wrong with adding the Qt frameworks
inside that bundle?
In other words, if you will be required to ship a directory structure
anyway, it shouldn't make much difference to the end user what's in
that structure.
But I've never shipped a statically-linked Mac GUI application. So I
don't know.
- boyd
Boyd Waters
Scientific Programmer
National Radio Astronomy Observatory
Socorro, New Mexico
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Message 9 in thread
Thats true, application bundles are a good option on the
Mac for applications and shared libraries,
command line tools would still be an issue.
- DavidF
Boyd Waters wrote:
>
> On Mar 12, 2008, at 4:01 PM, David Forstenlechner wrote:
>
>> static versions of the Qt libraries are pretty important to us,
>> since we plan to use it in a variety of contexts, some of which
>> require all dependencies to be contained in the binary.
>
>
> Hmm..
>
> Will a Qt/Cocoa binary even work without being packaged in an
> application bundle? I don't think so, but I might be wrong.
>
> But I think you'll need to put your binary in a directory structure like
>
> MyApp.app/Contents/MacOS/myapp
>
> and if that's the case, what's wrong with adding the Qt frameworks
> inside that bundle?
>
> In other words, if you will be required to ship a directory structure
> anyway, it shouldn't make much difference to the end user what's in
> that structure.
>
> But I've never shipped a statically-linked Mac GUI application. So I
> don't know.
>
> - boyd
>
> Boyd Waters
> Scientific Programmer
> National Radio Astronomy Observatory
> Socorro, New Mexico
>
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Message 10 in thread
On Mar 12, 2008, at 5:32 PM, David Forstenlechner wrote:
> Thats true, application bundles are a good option on the
> Mac for applications and shared libraries,
> command line tools would still be an issue.
I have written non-GUI Qt command line tools on the Mac with the
Carbon Qt, but I haven't tried static linking..
Can a command-line tool even participate in an event loop (emit/
receive signals) without being in an application bundle?
I realize this basic question isn't precisely related to Qt 4.4/Cocoa...
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Message 11 in thread
On 2008-03-13 02:03:23 +0100, Boyd Waters <bwaters@xxxxxxxx> said:
>
> On Mar 12, 2008, at 5:32 PM, David Forstenlechner wrote:
>> Thats true, application bundles are a good option on the
>> Mac for applications and shared libraries,
>> command line tools would still be an issue.
>
I guess I should be a bit more precise here. Nothing stops Qt from
being built statically (especially for Command-line apps). The problem
is that GUI applications need things to load a nib at runtime and we
(and to a lesser extent Apple) have not found a way to keep the current
Cocoa happy without it.
>
> I have written non-GUI Qt command line tools on the Mac with the
> Carbon Qt, but I haven't tried static linking..
>
> Can a command-line tool even participate in an event loop (emit/
> receive signals) without being in an application bundle?
The short answer is "yes." But only in later version of Mac OS X
(10.4+) and it requires you to "transform" the application yourself.
Jambi does this for example.
>
> I realize this basic question isn't precisely related to Qt 4.4/Cocoa...
Not really, no :-)
-- Trenton
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On 2008-03-12 23:01:43 +0100, David Forstenlechner <dforsten@xxxxxxxxxx> said:
>
> Thanks for the quick answer Trenton,
>
> static versions of the Qt libraries are pretty important to us,
> since we plan to use it in a variety of contexts, some of which
> require all dependencies to be contained in the binary.
>
> I attached the crash report,
> on the command line I get following output
Thanks, this is interesting. And this happens with every Qt example?
Could you perhaps blow the build away and build again without static to
see if this solves the problem? If it does, it gives an indication that
a static build would be tougher to support than I thought :-/
-- Trenton
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Trenton Schulz wrote:
>>
>> I attached the crash report,
>> on the command line I get following output
>
> Thanks, this is interesting. And this happens with every Qt example?
> Could you perhaps blow the build away and build again without static
> to see if this solves the problem? If it does, it gives an indication
> that a static build would be tougher to support than I thought :-/
>
Yes, I tried a rebuild with the shared library version of Qt and it
worked, with a few display glitches,
but no crashes.
- DavidF
> -- Trenton
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On 2008-03-13 11:24:51 +0100, David Forstenlechner <dforsten@xxxxxxxxxx> said:
> Trenton Schulz wrote:
>>>
>>> I attached the crash report,
>>> on the command line I get following output
>>
>> Thanks, this is interesting. And this happens with every Qt example?
>> Could you perhaps blow the build away and build again without static to
>> see if this solves the problem? If it does, it gives an indication that
>> a static build would be tougher to support than I thought :-/
>>
> Yes, I tried a rebuild with the shared library version of Qt and it
> worked, with a few display glitches,
> but no crashes.
Hmm... that implies we can't use Objective-C categories in static
libraries (or it requires some sort of special handshake). Categories
are how we are wrapping windows (it's a more general approach than
having every window derive from our own subclass of NSWindow). This is
part of the reason why we wanted to go with the "framework only"
version. Less surprises.
Anyway, we'll keep this in mind and if we decide to make QtGui work
staticly in Cocoa. Thanks for the feedback.
-- Trenton
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